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« on: July 29, 2010, 06:54:57 AM »

It was hard not to think of the possibility of Randy Hanson sitting at home watching the Tom Cable press conference on Comcast Sports Net Bay Area when the head coach was asked about the pregame ritual of defensive tackle John Henderson.

Henderson, signed as a free agent after being cut by the Jacksonville Jaguars, likes to have a member of the training staff smack him in the face to get him ready.

“I love it. I think it’s awesome,’’ Cable said Wednesday. “I hope I’m the guy that gets to slap him. I think it will be great. I just don’t want him to hit me back. That’s a big dude.’’

The guess here is Cable never made the connection, so far in his rear-view mirror are Hansongate and the allegations of domestic violence as reported by ESPN. He was relaxed and resolute, with neither issue amounting to anything other than a spate of bad publicity.

After all that, being docked two days of OTA practices by the NFL was small potatoes. If Cable truly grew stronger from events that didn’t kill him last year, the coach is a veritable King Kong.

“Like everything in life, things happen to all of us,’’ Cable said. “You work through it, you get by it and you learn what you’re supposed to learn from it.

“I’m looking for a great camp for all of us here and for us to be where we’re at today and be somewhere better next week and the week after that even better. And when we leave here, to be the kind of football team I think we can be.”

How good?

“We’re going to go after the AFC West. I’m not afraid to say that,’’ Cable said. “If they picked someone else for it already, that’s too bad. It doesn’t work like that. You’ve got to play the games. This team will be ready to do that.’’

Cable said his “culture change,’’ something he has been talking about since taking 28 games ago for Lane Kiffin, is complete. Mission accomplished.

“The next step is to not listen to all the negative. People are going to have an opinion,’’ Cable said. “That’s just what it is. But they’re not going to dictate who we are or what we are. All that is back there. What’s in front of us is winning a championship. That’s the goal now. Let’s go for it.’’

Asked if he felt like it was “his’’ team, Cable said flatly, “Yes. Absolutely. There’s no question in my mind.’’

Cable presented the aura of a coach who isn’t looking over his shoulder and had a plan of action he fully intends to execute.

There were no meandering quotes like Norv Turner, no veiled jabs at the limitations of the organization like Kiffin.

Cable talked a good game, and presented a more coach-like figure in terms of authority than anyone since Jon Gruden.

Which means in fact he has proved nothing other than he can talk. The next month we’ll start the process of backing it up.

Some more observations following Cable’s media session with players off-limits until Thursday afternoon:

– The coach is sold on the “learning intensive’’ practices and their value, and that’s fine, but of course the players are going to be on board with it.

Guys, would you rather have four days of walk-throughs or start knocking heads right away?

Surprise! He got positive feedback.

– Cable promises it won’t be a “soft’’ camp.

“We’re going to hit. We’ll have a pretty lively camp here before we’re all done.

“We got a long road to go. The important thing is is hopefully we get through this thing healthy and this team that showed up last night gets a chance to go out together at Tennessee and play together and everybody is healthy. We’ll certainly get the physical work in.’’

– Naming Jason Campbell was the common sense call considering Gradkowski’s inactivity following a torn pectoral muscle.

“I just think, how can you do it any different?,’’ Cable said. “He just hasn’t done anything for three months.”

– Cable manages to work in just the right touch of tradition without beating you over the head with the “Greatness of the Raiders’’ and the “Team of the Decades.’’

He did it when discussing the death of Jack Tatum, as bringing aboard former linebacker Greg Biekert.

All Raiders coaches say they were Raiders fans as kids. Cable, it’s clear, is telling the truth.

“I know what he was, and what he meant, and I think his teammates and people in the Raider Nation have recognized that, too. (He) did a lot of great things, and really was a great man on top of being a great football player.’’

Cable did manage to gloss over one of the more uncomfortable business moves regarding a popular player when noting that Biekert was part of one of the last good Raiders teams “for a two-year span there.’’

The Raiders won three straight division titles, but in Year 3, Biekert was given the option to either take a pay cut or accept his release, with rookie Napoleon Harris moving in as the starting middle linebacker.

Biekert chose the latter, moved on to Minnesota and never burned his bridges with the Raiders.

– Cable isn’t getting too slap-happy regarding Henderson, who will need to prove over the next month he can still be a top-quality run-stuffer.

“I think John Henderson will come here and we’ll see what he’s got,” Cable said. “I expect a lot of big things out of him. Whether that makes him the starter or not or he gets to that point, he’ll determine that.’’


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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2010, 09:09:29 AM »

I'm more excited about this coming season than any in a long, long time.

i have sat quietly on the sidelines the last few months watchingand I have to say.... I am massively encouraged by what I have seen this off-season.

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« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2010, 07:57:15 AM »

I'm more excited about this coming season than any in a long, long time.

i have sat quietly on the sidelines the last few months watchingand I have to say.... I am massively encouraged by what I have seen this off-season.

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Yeah same here, dont want to say it as i'll jinx our team though !

Just hope we stay clear of injuries.  On paper we seem to have a good side with some 'potentially' very good young players
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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2010, 08:47:17 AM »

We should be better this season; the QB position is much improved with Campbell (3000 yards 15 TD) or Gradkowski at helm.

Then after the first regular season game, we will be starting a fire Tom Cable theme
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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2010, 10:05:55 AM »

We should be better this season; the QB position is much improved with Campbell (3000 yards 15 TD) or Gradkowski at helm.

Then after the first regular season game, we will be starting a fire Tom Cable theme

Ha ha how long Supes !  I mentioned 3000 yards and 15 td's as if we get 'average' performance from our QB we should be 7-9 at least.  But yeah IF theres an injury (so hope theres not) the team will still be confident with Gradkowski at the helm.

Just want to make sure we stay away from injuries. Would love DHB and McFadden to have a decent season
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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2010, 10:25:33 AM »

I wouldn't build your hopes on Bey being that wr,  I mean he might improve but he was a draft shock when the Raiders drafted him.

The guys got the tools to be a great one; speed , size and strength look great on paper, but getting it together on the field is a different story...

Time is still on his side, so will have to see how he does in the new season.
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« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2010, 06:45:24 AM »

Everybody appears to be reporting that he is working hard and making good progress and hopefully this will mean a much better season for him.
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« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2010, 07:22:21 AM »

I wouldn't build your hopes on Bey being that wr,  I mean he might improve but he was a draft shock when the Raiders drafted him.

The guys got the tools to be a great one; speed , size and strength look great on paper, but getting it together on the field is a different story...

Time is still on his side, so will have to see how he does in the new season.

Go back to 1989 or 1990 and people were saying the same thing about Tim Brown.  Brown didnt have 1000 yards receiving until 1993 which was his 6th year.  Wasnt a coincidence thats when the Raiders finally got a passing game when Hostetler came

Bey had a nightmare rookie season, thats his rookie season though.  If by year 4 hes catching 22 passes a year then hes a bust, but i wont write someone off after one year.  Pointed out many times in the past some players have great rookie seasons (Mirer, Aaron Wallace) others are the opposite (Troy Polamalu etc)

Murphy has bags of potential, then theres DHB who surely can improve.  Having a good camp so far, talking to Aso every day after training and going through things which is good.  He'll have a decent co ordinator and a QB who can throw the ball, this is his chance.
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« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2010, 08:32:06 AM »

But Bey did not get any great reviews when he was in college; I remember a  forum; think it was NFLUK, and when the Raiders drafted Bey it was ' what the f#ck' .

I say time is still on Bey side, so he could prove to be a good pick.
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« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2010, 11:32:24 AM »

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« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2010, 12:55:45 PM »

But Bey did not get any great reviews when he was in college; I remember a  forum; think it was NFLUK, and when the Raiders drafted Bey it was ' what the f#ck' .

I say time is still on Bey side, so he could prove to be a good pick.

I admit i badly wanted Crabtree last year, then Crabtree played very well (with a poor QB) when he started and at this moment in time DHB looks an even worse pick.

Brown might have had a great college career but i dont give a monkeys, Danny Wuerrfel had a great college career, Tommie Frazier, Gino Toretta etc.  I remember at the time they said he was just a great returner and an average WR, then after his injury which took him a while to get back people were slating that pick as an Al Davis typical glory pick.  IF Bey shows a lot of improvement and has a 40 catch 750 yard type season i'll be happ(ier).

If he had 18 catches for 300 yards then hes slowly walking towards bustville.

Boring as it sounds i'm always surprised by things in the NFL so you just dont know
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« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2010, 03:09:20 PM »

Did you watch the video; they have got a point.  Al Davis has always gone for the fastest guy, who ever runs the fastest you bet your dollar the Raiders are going to draft him just because he so fast.
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« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2010, 03:25:26 PM »

Did you watch the video; they have got a point.  Al Davis has always gone for the fastest guy, who ever runs the fastest you bet your dollar the Raiders are going to draft him just because he so fast.

I didnt see the video but i've seen these great pundits say the same thing over and over time and time before.

At the time DHB was regarded as a late 1st round/early 2nd round draft pick.  Yeah he was picked wayyyyy too early but Al got the person he wanted

Aso was regarded as a reach in the late 1st round.  Blair Thomas was regarded as a 'cant miss' prospect in the 1st round.  Most pundits said Russell was a great pick and others said Brady Quinn would be the better pick.

Even if pundits said DHB was a great great pick i would still take it with a pinch, i'm sure like me you've been a fan since the 80's, thats over 20 years of football.  In that time no draft pundit/presenter/'expert' has ever got it right year after year.  NFL preview mags are just a rough guide and something to read as theyre hardly ever right.  Peter King and his superbowl predictions are a joke when you look back at them 12 months later.

I read knocks on when we drafted Louis Murphy as he was just a product of the college offense he played in and he had a good rookie year with a QB for half a season. So yeah at this moment in time Davis has bombed on DHB but on the other hand seems to have a future star in Murphy.

Davis has gone for speed in the 80's and 90's as well and was successful.  Granted the 00's have been awful but i reckon things will change.
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